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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am working as freelancer (programming and web design both) via guru.com. Getting project on Guru.com is very easy, all you people need understands of the online market. No need of 2-3 pages of huge proposals. No body hires you with a bulk of text and images. An employer at Guru.com always asks for sample. Check list for getting project on Guru.com
1) Proposal short and Persuasive, so an employer talks to you.
2) When showing your work don&#039;t give original
3) When employer contact, you show yours best work whether it’s related to the outsourced project description or not, just show them.
4) Your profile must be up to date.

To avoid fraud from employer
1) Never send your original content, example instead of jpg of high quality use low quality. Don’t send a watermarked original content.

2) Ask for payments on achieving milestone.

3) If employer rejects the project in middle, don’t loose heart, complete your project with excellence and list the completed project on eBay with demo link. If you done a good job. You will get a good amount for that project.

Note: Whether employer purchase the completed project or not. You are the developer of that project. It depends on you, how much better you can code, design or other fields.

Don&#039;t curse a company for not getting project or freelance job. I started with Basic profile, year 2005. Now employers wait for one or two week to outsource their project to me.  Many time I encountered with such employers who not ready to pay in the end, makes excuses. I just told them &quot;bye&quot; and sold the completed project on eBay with higher price in auction compare to the project price.

Online market, it’s like huge place for selling and purchasing. Even 15 line of code sell in 2000 dollars or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working as freelancer (programming and web design both) via guru.com. Getting project on Guru.com is very easy, all you people need understands of the online market. No need of 2-3 pages of huge proposals. No body hires you with a bulk of text and images. An employer at Guru.com always asks for sample. Check list for getting project on Guru.com<br />
1) Proposal short and Persuasive, so an employer talks to you.<br />
2) When showing your work don&#8217;t give original<br />
3) When employer contact, you show yours best work whether it’s related to the outsourced project description or not, just show them.<br />
4) Your profile must be up to date.</p>
<p>To avoid fraud from employer<br />
1) Never send your original content, example instead of jpg of high quality use low quality. Don’t send a watermarked original content.</p>
<p>2) Ask for payments on achieving milestone.</p>
<p>3) If employer rejects the project in middle, don’t loose heart, complete your project with excellence and list the completed project on eBay with demo link. If you done a good job. You will get a good amount for that project.</p>
<p>Note: Whether employer purchase the completed project or not. You are the developer of that project. It depends on you, how much better you can code, design or other fields.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t curse a company for not getting project or freelance job. I started with Basic profile, year 2005. Now employers wait for one or two week to outsource their project to me.  Many time I encountered with such employers who not ready to pay in the end, makes excuses. I just told them &#8220;bye&#8221; and sold the completed project on eBay with higher price in auction compare to the project price.</p>
<p>Online market, it’s like huge place for selling and purchasing. Even 15 line of code sell in 2000 dollars or more.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariah</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-4062</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the sentiment of the article. The site seems like it could have a lot of promise.However,since they allow anyone to post as an employer that leads to a lot of empty real leads. 

I&#039;m not saying that the site can&#039;t work for some people. But to me ,if you allow anyone to post as an employer than how can this be taken labeled as the biggest freelance website. Give me a break. I don&#039;t see this site up and going in 10 years unless they revamp.  Unless they use it as an engine for people to hire cheap labor in third world countries. Also I think they should charge employers to post to weed out some of the empty employer posts. Maybe like 5.00 a post or something like that. And if they award the project they can refund it. Even Ebay makes you pay for posting whether  you sale or not.

I have another two months on my membership and after that I don&#039;t see myself renewing. I am sure guru.com doesn&#039;t care they already have my 74.95 for the subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the sentiment of the article. The site seems like it could have a lot of promise.However,since they allow anyone to post as an employer that leads to a lot of empty real leads. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that the site can&#8217;t work for some people. But to me ,if you allow anyone to post as an employer than how can this be taken labeled as the biggest freelance website. Give me a break. I don&#8217;t see this site up and going in 10 years unless they revamp.  Unless they use it as an engine for people to hire cheap labor in third world countries. Also I think they should charge employers to post to weed out some of the empty employer posts. Maybe like 5.00 a post or something like that. And if they award the project they can refund it. Even Ebay makes you pay for posting whether  you sale or not.</p>
<p>I have another two months on my membership and after that I don&#8217;t see myself renewing. I am sure guru.com doesn&#8217;t care they already have my 74.95 for the subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-4028</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 01:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a copywriter -- a good one who has worked on hundreds of projects locally. I just signed up as a Guru Vendor to check things out, and have bid on nearly 15 projects, but have not heard back from any &quot;employers&quot;.

My impression, unfortunately, is that the majority of the employers are either bottom fishing (those dudes in India work mighty cheap, ya know) or they&#039;re listing projects just to see what going rates are.

It seems there are quite a few stay-at-home moms who took an English class or two who are willing to work for McDonalds-style wages as well as the overseas types working  in third-world economies.

But, ya never know, maybe I&#039;ll cover my fee at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a copywriter &#8212; a good one who has worked on hundreds of projects locally. I just signed up as a Guru Vendor to check things out, and have bid on nearly 15 projects, but have not heard back from any &#8220;employers&#8221;.</p>
<p>My impression, unfortunately, is that the majority of the employers are either bottom fishing (those dudes in India work mighty cheap, ya know) or they&#8217;re listing projects just to see what going rates are.</p>
<p>It seems there are quite a few stay-at-home moms who took an English class or two who are willing to work for McDonalds-style wages as well as the overseas types working  in third-world economies.</p>
<p>But, ya never know, maybe I&#8217;ll cover my fee at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: James Chartrand - JCM Enterprises</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Chartrand - JCM Enterprises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been working with other auction sites for two years now. Every one has produced results, from the occasional job to major contracts... except Guru.

Guru has been a complete waste of time and money for us. The site isn&#039;t friendly to use, the lack of transparency disturbs me, and the fact that 10 proposals a day for the past month has not even stirred up communication with a potential lead concerns me. 

On any other site, we&#039;d be already working by now (and I&#039;m including the crappy sites, too)

It&#039;s expensive and not cost-effective. There has been zero return on investment and when our three-month Select subscription expires, we won&#039;t be coming back to Guru. We&#039;d rather burn our money than waste it.

I&#039;m glad to see that there are plenty of reviews out there about the lack of quality for freelancers on Guru. Join my voice to the ranks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been working with other auction sites for two years now. Every one has produced results, from the occasional job to major contracts&#8230; except Guru.</p>
<p>Guru has been a complete waste of time and money for us. The site isn&#8217;t friendly to use, the lack of transparency disturbs me, and the fact that 10 proposals a day for the past month has not even stirred up communication with a potential lead concerns me. </p>
<p>On any other site, we&#8217;d be already working by now (and I&#8217;m including the crappy sites, too)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s expensive and not cost-effective. There has been zero return on investment and when our three-month Select subscription expires, we won&#8217;t be coming back to Guru. We&#8217;d rather burn our money than waste it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to see that there are plenty of reviews out there about the lack of quality for freelancers on Guru. Join my voice to the ranks.</p>
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		<title>By: Get reaquainted with an old friend&#8230; &#124; Bookmark Bliss</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-2566</link>
		<dc:creator>Get reaquainted with an old friend&#8230; &#124; Bookmark Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Website Review: Guru.comAfter my review was published, a representative from Guru contacted me with some corrections as well as some statistics on users and successes with their software. I incorporated some of the statistics into the original article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Website Review: Guru.comAfter my review was published, a representative from Guru contacted me with some corrections as well as some statistics on users and successes with their software. I incorporated some of the statistics into the original article. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Getting started in Freelancing &#124; Bookmark Bliss</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-2557</link>
		<dc:creator>Getting started in Freelancing &#124; Bookmark Bliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in this area of potential self employed income and after all the emails I received on our recent review of Guru.com it appears that many of us out there could use a little advice on getting the ball [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in this area of potential self employed income and after all the emails I received on our recent review of Guru.com it appears that many of us out there could use a little advice on getting the ball [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-1824</link>
		<dc:creator>Prashant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a complete waste to work on guru, its a total waste. It never shows any of the bid prices made by other people(since its completely blind).

There are at least 20-50 bids for each project after a few days, and I don&#039;t think these people get award any job to anyone.

Guru.com has to be more friendly to providers and be a little more cheap to them. They can start charging a bit to the buyers since they are the one to spend the main money on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a complete waste to work on guru, its a total waste. It never shows any of the bid prices made by other people(since its completely blind).</p>
<p>There are at least 20-50 bids for each project after a few days, and I don&#8217;t think these people get award any job to anyone.</p>
<p>Guru.com has to be more friendly to providers and be a little more cheap to them. They can start charging a bit to the buyers since they are the one to spend the main money on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.bookmarkbliss.com/reviews/website-review-gurucom/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried their basic membership and couldn&#039;t find anything either. I tried different combinations of skills, etc. One search I did just as an experiment (because it isn&#039;t my field), looking for jobs that were architecture related, appeared to turn up several jobs, but it turned out only Guru and Guru vendors could apply for them.

I&#039;d be suspicious about that 20% statistic. It&#039;d be interesting to know exactly what jobs those invoices were for.

You should name the fortune 500 company that didn&#039;t pay you-I think it&#039;s at least as much their fault as Guru&#039;s-unless the company was required to walk away. If they weren&#039;t required to, but were just entitled to, they should have had the decency to pay you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried their basic membership and couldn&#8217;t find anything either. I tried different combinations of skills, etc. One search I did just as an experiment (because it isn&#8217;t my field), looking for jobs that were architecture related, appeared to turn up several jobs, but it turned out only Guru and Guru vendors could apply for them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be suspicious about that 20% statistic. It&#8217;d be interesting to know exactly what jobs those invoices were for.</p>
<p>You should name the fortune 500 company that didn&#8217;t pay you-I think it&#8217;s at least as much their fault as Guru&#8217;s-unless the company was required to walk away. If they weren&#8217;t required to, but were just entitled to, they should have had the decency to pay you.</p>
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